Hunter/Jumper questions

Hunter/jumper friends, I need your help. Though I spend a lot of time hanging out at h/j shows for work, I’m thoroughly confused about a few things- help me out!

What is an “add back”? I kept hearing announcements about this and seeing it in the show program. What is it? Can you do it at any time? Only for certain classes?

Just how high are your field boots supposed to be? I had so many people come to try on boots and reject them because they weren’t high enough. And they were halfway up the back of the person’s knees! And the Spanish tops were into thigh territory!

For hunter derbies, do people wear pre-tied or traditional stock ties? 

What’s the etiquette on courtesy circles? Do you make them at the beginning? At both the beginning and end? How large are they supposed to be?

Is braiding required? I saw horses totally unbraided, some with just their manes braided, and some with a braided mane and tail. Does it depend on the class you’re doing?

Help me out, y’all!

Author: Stephanie

Equestrian, amateur cook, people person.

8 thoughts on “Hunter/Jumper questions”

  1. An Addback is usually just a hunter class with money.Not a stake, or a classic. But a normal class, where the entry fees go toward a payout for 1-6. Rather than a set amount like in a stake or classic where the prize money is predetermined, there’s a percentage of payout given to 1-6. So more people equals more money in the pot.

    Since tall boots tend to break down, people will often get them extra high. But many people also go overboard. You want the spanish top above your knee (after they break down) when you are sitting on your horse.

    Never done a derby so don’t know that one, but I think people usually tie them.

    If the jump one is on the far side of the ring no courtesy circle at the beginning, and same if the last jump is at the far end. If the course begins near the gate circle at the beginning, and if it also ends by the gate, end circle. Unless you are doing an eq class or a handy trip, then you march right in and go.

    Braiding depends on the rating and the class.

    1. Thanks especially for clearing up the addback thing- I was completely confused the whole show, because I kept hearing the announcer say things like “And here is So and So for the addback round!”

  2. They wear both, I wear pre-tied because if I’m stressed out and have to tie it I will fuck up and be on the verge of tears because that is my personality. Heather is right on points 1 and 2 and 4. I always circle before the gate at the end of the class because it takes a while to slow down giant baby horse.

    Braiding depends on the rating of the class and the show. Though I totally went unbraided for my professional classes at the ‘A’ show which threw my trainer into a tizzy, but I wanted to save money, see lots of trainer’s doing this and it doesn’t affect placings. Plus I was using those classes as a warm up.

    1. Yeah, being unbraided did not seem to affect placings with MAYBE the exception of the hunter derby. But I don’t know enough about what judges are looking for in the derbies to know.

      I will have to stash some stock ties on the trailer for the next H/J show!

  3. What is an “add back”?
    It’s when a class pays out a % of the money earned to people who place in it. Usually happens in open warmup classes and jumper classes.

    Just how high are your field boots supposed to be?
    All I know is that mine are too low!

    For hunter derbies, do people wear pre-tied or traditional stock ties? I wear a traditional stock tie, but that’s because I already owned it from fox hunting.

    What’s the etiquette on courtesy circles? Do you make them at the beginning? At both the beginning and end? How large are they supposed to be?
    You only make them if you start or end in the same end as the gate. If you start a course at the other end of the ring, no circle is needed.

    Is braiding required? I saw horses totally unbraided, some with just their manes braided, and some with a braided mane and tail. Does it depend on the class you’re doing?
    People don’t usually do tails unless it’s an under saddle class or formal class. I honestly think you should ALWAYS braid for any rated show, but people will disagree with me on that.

  4. lol so many technicalities!! all i know is that when i did (local schooling unrated) h/j shows, we did courtesy circles at both the beginning and end.

  5. What is an “add back”? Add back means a percentage the entry fees for that class are added back as prize money. Usually it’s 10%. They don’t do these much in my area anymore.

    Just how high are your field boots supposed to be? When your knee is bent the spanish top should come just above the knee. The back of the boot should be right up touching your thigh. If the boot looks just right brand new, it will end up too short because they drop some once they break in.

    For hunter derbies, do people wear pre-tied or traditional stock ties? I wear a traditional tie, but I think it varies.

    What’s the etiquette on courtesy circles? It depends on the course some what. If the first jump is going away from the in gate, then you do one before it. If the first jump requires you to go all the way to the other end of the ring before jumping it, you don’t need to do one. At the end it’s the same thing. If you finish at the same end as the out gate, then you make a circle. If you have to travel half way around the ring to exit, then it’s not necessary to circle.

    Is braiding required? Jumpers don’t need to braid. Hunters and equitation horses should be braided. But it depends on the rating of the show. I don’t always braid for b or c shows, but I do for A. Also, if you’re just doing a low hunter trip or some kind of warm up, you don’t need to braid.

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